Question

Does Econet have Unrestricted APN? I would like to set-up a very small network that I will access outside through Dynamic DNS services.

You can check your router WAN IP if you are using ECONET 3G. If you address  DO NOT look like these then its unrestricted..(am i correct)

10.x.x.x,
192.168.x.x,  
172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x

Thanks

Answer 1

The IP address you have mentioned ar private IP address from the RFC 1918. What this means is that you can use them inside your Lan  and they are not routable to the internet.

Inside your network you can use them and the econet 3G router can automatically nat them so that you can get internet  access, it can also provide dhcp.

Now its up to econet to provide you with public or private ip address. With the number of clients econet have, l can easily assume that they ar giving out private ip in the 10.x.x.x range.

If you want to access you local lan for ftp or other reasons, you need a static public ip which you can from econet bt it will cost you some serious cash.  
If you hav a very good reason you can buy one from Afrinic with the help of Econet, powertel or Telone.

Comments

Thanks, MacDonald.. I sent someone to check for me and the IP addresses are in the range 81.*.*.*, will have to do a research on it. I'm using this service here in South Africa with Vodacom and 8-ta. Cell C do also provide unrestricted APN.

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With enough cash you can buy a block of public ip addresses from econet and then nat them. But beware that if you change isp from econet to somebody else,  you wont be able to take these public ip addresses with you.

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most of the internet providers in Zim use Carrier Grade NAT (CG-NAT)
this basically means your phone gets a private IP which connects you to the econet network (or telone, zol etc) then they do NAT at the carrier level to allow them to use less public IP's than they have users - this is particularly true on 3g networks where the number of active users is constantly in flux and makes IP management simpler.

As Mac said, contacting econet direct is your best bet but be prepared to pay a small ransom to get such functionality.

FYI your not allowed to "sell" ip addresses as per IANA regulations however many providers get around this by charging some administration charge or infrastructure charge as a result of using/needing the extra IP's - this is much much more prominent now that IPv4 is reaching actual exhaustion of addresses and expect such prices to go up

Answer 2

what mean you when you say "unrestricted" that i think will help us come with an answer to your question, as for it having no ip add in the classes you provided doesn't really mean much, if unrestricted means not billed yah sure Econet sometimes does that

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Thanks for a quick answer, what I'm saying is if I connect a router through Econet 3G, what type of WAN IP address do they give out? Public or Private? Will i be able to use services like DynDNS to configure an FTP access to a PC inside my LAN network? Thanks again for help

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I have used port forwarding many times with both Econet and Telecel. The IP address remains static until you switch off your phone . I use net gear wireless router and can access my pc remotely from anywhere

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This is wonderful news... You have just made my day!!!

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@ anonymous your WAN ip is always a public address coz those are the only ones routable on the internet, and for accessing a pc on your lan that might be tricky if almost impossible without setting up port forwardin, SOCKS etc etc

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Jay - that isnt strictly true - the WAN ip i get with telone is a private IP - 10.10.x.x thats not the public IP that people see when i connect to servers but its the WAN IP i get from telone in my router

WAN is not equal to Internet, Internet is a collection of LAN's and WAN's (Networks) that link to each other you can be part of a WAN but not connected to the "Internet" as you know it

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Private address definition
These addresses can be used on a private network, but they’re not routable through the public Internet. This not only creates a measure of much-needed security, but it also conveniently saves valuable IP address space.

these are the current private adds

Class A

10.0.0.0 through 10.255.255.255

Class B

172.16.0.0 through 172.31.255.255

Class C

192.168.0.0 through 192.168.255.255

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For more info: Econet does assign dynamic Public IP addresses of the format 77.246.xx.xx; The IP addresses 82.145.xx.xx are for their transparent proxy which is apparently OPERA. A quick trace route for this IP shows you that the final destination is in Norway where the web caching proxy server is which is used by both Telecel and Econet. Should one wants to do a remote desktop you have to set up the port-forwading on router correctly and if you decide to use DynDNS services ensure that they bypass this proxy otherwise they will have update with a wrong IP address in this case your proxy IP address. If you have questions just reply to this post and I will get the e-mail.

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So is possible 2 access internet without payin if i have those proxy numbers,4 example i have the ones my xul uses,so can i connect to the net frm my house?

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generally no its not possible to access the internet without paying (unless someone else is paying for you)

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Hi There

I would like to access a device via VNC by using a DNS ( I have done many in SA ) I am using an econet sim card and a Hawei router, My DNS is working and updating my WAN IP but I cannot get remote access any assistance would be great